{"id":471,"date":"2017-11-24T23:00:42","date_gmt":"2017-11-24T21:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/?p=471"},"modified":"2017-11-24T23:05:16","modified_gmt":"2017-11-24T21:05:16","slug":"gentlemen-start-your-starters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/?p=471","title":{"rendered":"Gentlemen, start your&#8230;..starters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dear VW-friends,<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>while still waiting for Mark coming home from his honeymoon trip to make some progress regarding the chassis I thought it\u00b4s a good idea to do another step forward in the meantime by doing a job that I could probably handle by my own. After the generator turned out to be the old original and \u2013even better- to be restorable, I was curious if I would be lucky again in a similar case. So I had a close look on the starter.<\/p>\n<p>The starter was still bolt on the gearbox when the Samba was found. Disassembling the starter was very easy: just one nut to turn&nbsp; -and it didn\u00b4t even brake! So here I present the Samba\u00b4s starter, another rusty Bosch piece of history:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-476\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/DSCF5017-e1511541889208.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"900\" width=\"1200\"><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Same story as the generator, first of all we have to clear if it is the real original one, cause investing time, work and money in a rusty piece which isn\u00b4t even original doesn\u00b4t make sense. So let\u00b4s see what the 1954 workshop manual has to tell us about starters and if there is a picture and a part number which can help to identify the piece and to judge about its originality. Again, the manual shows two different starters for early Barndoors.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-473\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual.png\" alt=\"\" height=\"922\" width=\"688\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual.png 688w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual-224x300.png 224w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual-230x308.png 230w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual-350x469.png 350w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/older-starter-in-manual-480x643.png 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>the Bosch EED 0.4\/6 L\/4<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-470\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021.png\" alt=\"\" height=\"960\" width=\"674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021.png 674w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021-211x300.png 211w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021-230x328.png 230w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021-350x499.png 350w, https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/workshop-manual-211-911-021-480x684.png 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 674px) 100vw, 674px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>and the VW 211 911 021<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Again the Bosch item must be the older one, because the VW 211 911 021 one comes already with the nine digit part number, which did not exist in 1951 when our Samba was build.<\/p>\n<p>Comparing our rusty starter with the picture of the Bosch EED 0.4\/6 L\/4&nbsp; makes me hoping it could be the right one. So let\u00b4s grind the starter\u00b4s housing to search for a stamped in Bosch number. See what I found:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-475\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/DSCF5015-e1511541949339.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"900\" width=\"1200\"><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Bingo! Lucky again! It\u00b4s the correct Bosch one!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Let\u00b4s remove the cap of the starter carefully and have look inside:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-478\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/IMG00554-20171124-1736-e1511541842733.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"900\" width=\"1200\"><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Not too bad! In fact pretty good!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It\u00b4s nearly clean inside and the brushes are still good, there isn\u00b4t even a need to replace them.&nbsp; Here we have another proof of the theory that the Samba didn\u00b4t drive too many kilometer in its first life. If the starter is still the original one and the brushes do look good as these ones here, we can call the Bus a \u201clow-mileage-car\u201d, too bad some idiot left the Samba outside to rot to death! What could have been the reason to dump a probably good car in the mud?<\/p>\n<p>OK, a 1951 Bus was pretty \u201cold\u201d in 1961 when the current Busses came with a much more powerful engine, much better brakes and a full synchro gearbox, but still it was a Samba \u2013the most expensive Volkswagen Bus you could buy back in those days. At least it would have been worth a technical upgrade. Fitting a new engine and the full synchro gearbox wouldn\u00b4t has been such a big deal. Many people went this way, why did the Samba\u00b4s owner decide to let the Bus die?<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, now it\u00b4s my turn to bring the Samba back to life and the starter seems to be easiest job so far. I cleaned it inside, washed the bearings and applied some new grease on the moving parts. Grinding the bolt for the big red power cord and the screw for the red cable 50 coming from the ignition lock will be another step to eliminate future 6-Volt-electricity problems. What more could I do? Don\u00b4t say: \u201cSandblast and paint the starter housing.\u201d Keep in mind the philosophy of this reconstruction: The old and rusty original parts will stay the way they look to show the Samba\u00b4s history and to help identifying what is an original and what is a replacement.<\/p>\n<p>Now let\u00b4s see if the starter works! I better don\u00b4t practice a common fault when it comes to test a starter. Never fire a starter up without sticking the starter\u00b4s shaft in a correct placed bushing! Bolting it to an old pre-1966-gearbox will avoid damages inside the starter by a free wiggling driving shaft.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-477\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.entfallteiledienst.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/DSCF5019-e1511541865948.jpg\" alt=\"\" height=\"900\" width=\"1200\"><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Now connect the starter to a battery, bridge pole 30 to screw 50 and\u2026\u2026.. it runs! After 56 years!<\/strong> <\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What a nice feeling a piece of the Samba shows a bit of life again. A good motivation to keep on working on this epic project.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Have a nice weekend!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Florian<\/p>\n<p>Hits: 0<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear VW-friends, &nbsp; while still waiting for Mark coming home from his honeymoon trip to make some progress regarding the chassis I thought it\u00b4s a good idea to do another step forward in the meantime by doing a job that I could probably handle by my own. 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